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		<title>Tip of the Day 142: 1st Stage + 2nd Stage = Injection Forward</title>
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<div class=" bs-column col-sm-12   bs-column-36f30487f5bda5ec35c1fc7a3cfb047ab332daf1 bs-column---default     "><p><a href="137">Tip # 137</a> explained how to correctly name « <em>First Stage</em> » instead of <em>Injection Forward</em> because <em>Injection Forward,</em> in eDART land, is supposed to go off at the end of hold. Naming First Stage correctly lets the eDART create <em>Machine Sequence / Injection Forward</em> from the start of first stage until the fall of injection pressure. However this is not very reliable when you are making fill-only parts or have other variations in hold pressure.</p><br /><br /><p>Some machines (e.g. the Arburg and Sumitomo in our lab) have a second digital output that is on during hold or « Second Stage » pressure. If there is no complete <em>Injection Forward</em> signal from the machine then the eDART can use the <em>Seq. Module Input / First Stage</em> and <em>Seq. Module Input / Second Stage</em> signals to create its internal <em>Machine Sequence / Injection Forward</em>. This is more reliable than letting the eDART search for the fall of injection pressure. Furthermore it is « real time » because the eDART sequence engine does not need to look backwards from screw run to find the fall of pressure after it happened.</p><br /><br /><p>Here is the graphical depiction showing how the setup in Sensor Locations appears on the Cycle Graph:</p><br /><br /><p><img src="https://rjginc.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/tip142-image1.gif"/></p><br /><br /><p> </p></div>
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		<title>Tip of the Day 134: Sequencing Made Possible with Hydraulic Screw Motor Pressure</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<div class=" bs-column col-sm-12   bs-column-36f30487f5bda5ec35c1fc7a3cfb047ab332daf1 bs-column---default     "><p>We find that many of are customers are getting charged dearly for adding sequence outputs to a machine for screw run, injection forward and so on. If you are using a machine with a hydraulic screw motor then there may be a way to detect the screw motor running using a Lynx hydraulic sensor.</p><br /><br /><ol><br /><li>First find out if there is a hydraulic port that is pressurized when the motor is running and has no pressure when the motor is stopped. Note that this must be the « in » side of the motor, the side with the driving pressure (not the return to tank).<br /><br />	 </li><br />	<li>Plumb a Lynx hydraulic sensor into that port and connect its Lynx cable to the <em>eDART</em> via a Lynx junction box.<br /><br />	 </li><br />	<li>In Sensor Locations name the new hydraulic sensor on the screw motor port as <em>Hydraulic Pressure / Screw</em> Motor ( <em>type / location</em> ).</li><br /></ol><p>While the press is running check the Cycle Graph&rsquo;s « <em>Machine Sequence / Screw Run</em> » signal against the returning volume curve to see if it makes sense. The <em>Machine Sequence / Screw Run</em> signal should go off at the step in the volume curve just before suck-back (decompress) pulls the screw back.<br /><br /><br />The <em>eDART</em>™&rsquo;s sequencer software assumes that the motor is running when is sees pressure. It assumes that the motor is running when the pressure goes above 5% of the hydraulic sensor full scale. At that time it turns on the internal <em>Machine Sequence / Screw Run</em> signal (see tips <a href="26"># 26</a> and <a href="27">27</a> for an explanation of Machine Sequence vs. Seq. Module Inputs). When the pressure decreases to less than 2.5% of the hydraulic full scale the eDART assumes that the motor has stopped and turns off the <em>Machine Sequence / Screw Run</em>. For a 3000 psi ( ~206 bar) hydraulic sensor the « On » threshold is then 150 psi ( ~10 bar) and the off threshold 75 psi ( ~5 bar).<br /><br /><br />Together with the <em>eDART</em>&lsquo;s stroke signal (usually from an LER-30 Lynx stroke sensor) and the injection pressure the <em>eDART</em> can create most of the signals required for good data analysis, template match computation and summary variable computation. There may be some small threshold adjustments required in some cases to get the correct start and end of the injection portion of the cycle.<br /><br /><br />This method of finding screw motor motion has not been used much, though we did have it on a machine in our lab here at one time. If the pressures observed in step 1 are not workable for detecting the motor running they can be adjusted in the <em>eDART</em>&lsquo;s system configuration. Contact RJG support if this is necessary.</p></div>
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		<title>Tip of the Day 137: Injection Forward ≠ First Stage</title>
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<div class=" bs-column col-sm-12   bs-column-36f30487f5bda5ec35c1fc7a3cfb047ab332daf1 bs-column---default     "><p>We have had some problems when hooking up to machines with the nomenclature for « Injection Forward ». Many times machines call the filling (speed) phase « Injection » so our customers get this signal wired in and call it « Injection Forward ». The <em>eDART</em>™ expects « Injection Forward » to be a signal that goes on at the beginning of the cycle and off at the end of hold. It should look like this:</p><br /><br /><p><img src="https://rjginc.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/tip137-image1.gif"/></p><br /><br /><p>Problems arise when you name the signal « Injection Forward » and it goes off at the end of filling (speed control) like this:<br /><br /><img src="https://rjginc.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/tip137-image2.gif"/><br /><br /><br />The above is <u>NOT</u> the way the signal should be named. If you use « Injection Forward » for the filling phase the <em>eDART</em> will compute incorrect hold times and pressures, incorrect matching of templates for Template Match values and other problems.<br /><br /><br />The solution is to name the signal correctly, specifically « First Stage »: the signal that goes on during the speed portion of the machine&rsquo;s cycle. Machine wiring has many different names for this signal: « First Stage », « Injection », « Boost » or « Filling » are commen names. Once you have determined that the signal goes off at the end of speed you should change the name in Sensor Locations like this:<br /><br /><img src="https://rjginc.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/tip137-image3.gif"/><br /><br /><br />If you can find BOTH signals, « Injection Forward », &#8217;till end of hold, and « First Stage » for speed phase, by all means name them both as shown below. This is the most accurate method of telling the <em>eDART</em> what the machine is doing.<br /><br /><img src="https://rjginc.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/tip137-image4.gif"/></p></div>
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		<title>Tip of the Day 86: V-&gt;P Transfer Ends Fill</title>
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<div class=" bs-column col-sm-12   bs-column-36f30487f5bda5ec35c1fc7a3cfb047ab332daf1 bs-column---default     "><p>Recently I got a call from a customer that had a fill volume set properly (auto or manual) in order to get good viscosity, fill time and other sequencing information. But Machine Sequence / Fill signal insisted on going off earlier than the fill volume he had set. All the sequence inputs were correct, the Seq. Module Input / First Stage signal went off at the right time etc.</p><br /><br /><p>This is what he expected to see. Note that this is a two stage process so V-&gt;P transfer would not normally be active. Fill volume is set at 1.838 cu. in.</p><br /><br /><p><img src="https://rjginc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/tip86-image1.jpg"/></p><br /><br /><p>Here is what he actually saw. You can see that V-&gt;P transfer was active and firing earlier than the fill volume he had set. But the machine was running at two-stage process with position transfer and was not using the external V-&gt;P transfer from the <em>eDART</em>.</p><br /><br /><p><img src="https://rjginc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/tip86-image2.jpg"/></p><br /><br /><h3>Discussion</h3><br /><br /><p>The <em>eDART</em> thinks that if it has commanded the transfer to occur then this must end fill. It assumes that the signal is hooked up and being used. It assumes that here can be no fill velocity (« V » in « V-&gt;P ») after transfer to pressure. So it sets the Machine Sequence / Fill off as soon as the V-&gt;P output goes on. In this case it was too early because the « V to P Transfer » tool had an early volume or time control set up. The machine was set to transfer on its own position control and was ignoring external transfer.</p><br /><br /><p>Moral of the story: When a process is running with machine controlled transfer turn off the controls on the V to P Transfer tool or drag it off of the current workspace in the Architect. Generally once a process is set up as a machine controlled process you do not need to « attach » the V to P tool to the mold. Conversely, if it IS supposed to run Decoupled 3 then you should attach it and use the external transfer on the machine with appropriately set setpoints.</p></div>
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<div class=" bs-column col-sm-12   bs-column-36f30487f5bda5ec35c1fc7a3cfb047ab332daf1 bs-column---default     "><p><div><br /><p>Well, that about wraps it up for <em>eDART</em> Sequencing. For now, anyway. Let&rsquo;s quickly review the important points.</p><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li>The <em>eDART</em> sequencer uses <em>Seq. Module Inputs</em>, stroke, injection pressure and others to create <em>Machine Sequence</em> signals. </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li>The sequencer creates <em>Machine Sequence</em> Signals, even with with very few inputs when necessary. </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li>The <em>eDART</em> uses its internal <em>Machine Sequence</em> signals to compute summary values such as <em>Effective Viscosity</em> etc. </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li>It also uses <em>Machine Sequence</em> signals to make decisions for control (V-&gt;P Transfer, Valve Gates, Alarms and Diverter Controls, Basic 3-Stage etc.) </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li>The more inputs the customer wires up the fewer manual steps required to get good sequencing information. With few inputs he must set and adjust things to get good sequencing. </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li>The names given to the various inputs are critical. The <em>eDART</em> is, after all, a computer and cannot guess at what you <u>meant</u> to say rather than what you <u>did</u> say. Incorrect names given on Sensor Locations will create incorrect data. </li><br /></ul><br /><p><strong>Operating Rules of Thumb &ndash; Memorize These</strong></p><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong>Wire up all possible sequence signals</strong> as soon as you can (especially in a permanent installation) to avoid the chance of forgetting those manual steps that are required without them. Demos require fewer or no sequence signals unless you want to show full capability and how the user does not need to set things if they are all wired up. </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong>Carefully check the On/Off status in Sensor Locations</strong> before accepting. Operate the machine and watch at the little green lights. </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong>Name the sequence inputs correctly.</strong> </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong>If you don&rsquo;t know what a signal is doing, call it <em>Not Used</em></strong> (or <em>Unknown</em> for analysis purposes). If a signal does nothing, call it <em>Not Used</em>. </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong>Always set the fill volume</strong> once the process has stabilized (until we incorporate Auto-Set Fill Volume into the sequencer). </li><br /></ul><br /></div></p></div>
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<div class=" bs-column col-sm-12   bs-column-36f30487f5bda5ec35c1fc7a3cfb047ab332daf1 bs-column---default     "><p><div><br /><p>I hear after sending yesterday&rsquo;s tip that I got a little carried away with too much information in one message. If so, you can just file it for later reference if you need it.</p><br /><p>Today, in more abbreviated form, we discuss how controls depend on sequencing.</p><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong>Pack to Hold Transfer</strong><br /><br />    <br /><br />    This is the control least sensitive to sequencing. It will turn its output on when the pressure setpoint is above a threshold and off when below 95% of it. Even if you wire sequence inputs incorrectly it will still work. Of course if the <em>Injection Forward</em> signal comes on part way into the cycle then the cavity pressures may auto-zero at the wrong point creating wrong thresholds. If you use volume to transfer then a good <em>Screw Run</em> signal will ensure proper zeroing.<br /><br />    <br /><br />    V-&gt;P transfer has an internal setting that you can use to force Control Output / V-&gt;P transfer off at the end of injection forward. If the setpoint is still above the threshold it will stay on anyway. But if you want it synchronous with the machine then you need a good injection forward signal. </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong>Valve Gate Control</strong><br /><br />    <br /><br />    It is essential that you have good Injection <em>Forward, Screw Run and Mold Clamped Seq. Module Inputs</em> to run this control. Unlike V-&gt;P it depends heavily on knowing the stages of the cycle in order to arm / disarm valve controls so as to avoid chatter and provide for re-open control. </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong>Basic 3-Stage Control</strong><br /><br />    <br /><br />    Must have good<em> Injection Forward</em> and <em>Screw Run</em> signals because it uses these to start the cycle and zero the screw. Unlike V-&gt;P Transfer it cannot run on just a threshold basis any time regardless of sequencing. It is intimately connected to the actual hydraulic valve on the machine and so it must be properly synchronized with the machine&rsquo;s sequence. </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong>Shuttle Control</strong><br /><br />    <br /><br />    The Shuttle Control only needs correct the <em>Seq. Module Input / Shuttle Position</em>(s) and <em>Injection Forward</em> to work. It checks the shuttle position at the start of each cycle (<em>Injection Forward</em>) </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong>Alarm Settings and Diverter Control</strong><br /><br />    <br /><br />    Of course your set alarms depend on the proper computation of values. If sequencing is incorrect you will get incorrect values.<br /><br />    <br /><br />    Beyond that the Alarm Settings tool does its computations at the end of the cycle. So it needs a consistent end in order to do the work and fire the Diverter Control outputs at the same time on each cycle. As long as the process is set up the same every time then any end of cycle will work. </li><br /></ul><br /></div></p></div>
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<div class=" bs-column col-sm-12   bs-column-36f30487f5bda5ec35c1fc7a3cfb047ab332daf1 bs-column---default     "><p><div><br /><p>We have covered most of the ways that the <em>eDART</em> can get its Machine Sequence information. The reason for getting the sequence right is so that the <em>eDART</em> will calculate accurate summary values. One of the most important values calculated is <em>Effective Viscosity</em> during fill. This is generally a variable over which you have no control but is a huge factor in analyzing problems. Most of the other summary values record how the machine is working. A few in-cavity variables (e.g. cavity fill time) relate to the start of fill sequence.</p><br /><br /><p>I have tried to represent the more important summary values computed in the graph below.</p><br /><br /><p><img src="https://rjginc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/tip39-image1.jpg"/></p><br /><br /><hr /><br /><p>Here is the same information from the graph but shown in a list (plus a few more). These are the more important summary values that depend on <em>Machine Sequence</em> signals (the sequence signals computed by the sequencer, not those directly input from the machine).</p><br /><br /><p><strong>Machine Sequence / Injection Forward</strong></p><br /><br /><ul type="disc"><br /><li>All <em>Injection Integral</em>s</li><br />	<li><em>Sequence Time / Injection Forward</em></li><br />	<li><em>Gate Seal</em></li><br />	<li><em>Mold Deflection Pressure</em></li><br />	<li><br /><em>Peak</em>s on cavity pressures are normally computed only during injection forward (unless selected otherwise in the Sequence Settings “Other” tab).</li><br /></ul><br /><p><strong>Machine Sequence / Fill</strong></p><br /><br /><ul type="disc"><br /><li><br /><em>Effective Viscosity / Fill</em> (both start and end of fill)</li><br />	<li><em>Fill Shear Rate / Inverse Fill Time</em></li><br />	<li><em>Sequence Time / Fill Time</em></li><br />	<li><br /><em>Process Time</em> / <em>Cavity Fill</em> depends on the start of fill being correct</li><br />	<li><br /><em>Fill and Pack Time </em>and<em> Fill and Pack Integral</em> depend upon the start of fill being correct</li><br />	<li><br /><em>Average Value</em>s for <em>Fill Flow Rate</em> (volumetric) and <em>Fill Speed</em> (linear)</li><br />	<li><br /><em>Process Metric / Match Error</em> (depends on correct fill start; currently generated by Process Match Meter)</li><br />	<li><br /><em>Dynamic Pressure Loss</em> (needs end of fill to know when to compute pressure loss)</li><br />	<li><br /><em>Values at V1-&gt;V2 Xfer</em> (if a 3-stage process)<em>.</em><br /></li><br />	<li><br /><em>Value at V-&gt;P Xfer.</em> if it is a 2-stage process (no pack)</li><br /></ul><br /><p><strong>Machine Sequence / Pack</strong></p><br /><br /><ul type="disc"><br /><li><br /><em>Average Value</em>s for <em>Pack Flow Rate</em> (volumetric) and <em>Pack Speed</em> (linear)</li><br />	<li><em>Sequence Time / Pack Time</em></li><br />	<li><br /><em>Value at V-&gt;P Xfer.</em> (also works in 2-stage process if there is no pack)</li><br /></ul><br /><p><strong>Machine Sequence / Hold</strong></p><br /><br /><ul type="disc"><br /><li><em>Sequence Time / Hold Time</em></li><br />	<li><em>Average Value / Hold Pressure</em></li><br />	<li><em>Average Value / Stable Hold Pressure</em></li><br /></ul><br /><p><strong>Machine Sequence / Screw Run</strong></p><br /><br /><ul type="disc"><br /><li>Correct zeroing and direction of the stroke sensor which in turn affect <em>Machine Sequence / Fill </em>and all that follow from it.</li><br />	<li><br /><em>Sequence Time / Cycle Time</em> if there are no other sequence signals after (such as Mold Clamped)</li><br />	<li><em>Sequence Time / Screw Run</em></li><br />	<li>All <em>Cycle Integral</em>s (unless the Sequence Settings “Other” tab is used to set a fixed integration limit)</li><br />	<li><em>Average Value / Backpressure</em></li><br />	<li><br /><em>Decompresssion / Shot Volume </em>and<em> Decompression / Shot Stroke</em><br /></li><br /></ul><br /><p><strong>Machine Sequence / Mold Clamped</strong></p><br /><br /><ul type="disc"><br /><li><em>Sequence Time / Cycle Time</em></li><br />	<li><em>Sequence Time / Mold Clamped</em></li><br />	<li><br /><em>Cycle Integral</em>s if time before mold clamped is set up for the integration limit in the Sequence Settings “Other” tab</li><br /></ul><br /></div></p></div>
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<div class=" bs-column col-sm-12   bs-column-36f30487f5bda5ec35c1fc7a3cfb047ab332daf1 bs-column---default     "><p><div><br /><p>We have covered <em>Machine Sequence / Injection Forward</em> and <em>Machine Sequence / Fill</em> ad nauseum. Let&rsquo;s complete the punishment by covering the rest.</p><br /><p><strong><u>Sequences Dependent on External Inputs</u></strong></p><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong><em>Machine Sequence / Screw Run</em></strong>:<br /><br />    Usually goes on and off with the <em>Seq. Module Input / Screw Run</em>, directly matching the sequence input.<br /><br />    <br /><br />    Can also use thresholds on <em>Revolution Rate / Screw Motor </em>(as in the Sumitomo Oscillograph Interface), <em>Hydraulic Pressure / Screw Motor</em> or <em>Flow Switch / Screw Motor</em>. The last one has not yet been built as a product.<br /><br />    <br /><br />    Remember: Each of these is designed to go ON when the motor starts turning and OFF when it stops (NOT after suck-back). </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong><em>Machine Sequence / Mold Clamped<br /><br />    </em></strong>This signal directly follows <em>Seq. Module Input / Mold Clamped</em>.<br /><br />    <br /><br />    If you have no <em>Seq. Module Input / Mold Clamped</em> but do have both <em>Seq. Module Input / Mold Opening</em> and <em>Seq. Module Input / Mold Closing</em> then the sequencer will create <em>Machine Sequence / Mold Clamped.</em> It will use the end of <em>Mold Closing</em> for <em>Mold Clamped</em> ON and the start of <em>Opening</em> for <em>Mold Clamped</em> OFF. </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong><em>Machine Sequence / Machine in Manual<br /><br />    </em></strong>This signal directly follows the <em>Seq. Module Input / Machine in Manual</em>.<br /><br />    <br /><br />    If you have <em>Seq. Module Input / Semi-Auto or Auto</em> then the sequencer inverts it and creates an internal <em>Seq. Module Input / Machine in Manual</em>. </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong><em>Machine Sequence / Mold Opening and Mold Closing<br /><br />    </em></strong>These signals simply follow the action of their respective <em>Seq. Module Input</em>s. The sequencer will also use them to create <em>Machine Sequence / Mold Open</em> like it does with <em>Mold Clamped</em>. <em>Machine Sequence / Mold Open</em> will go ON when <em>Opening</em> goes off and OFF when <em>Closing</em> goes ON. </li><br /></ul><br /><p><strong><u>Sequences Generated by the Sequencer</u></strong></p><br /><p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in">These <em>Machine Sequence</em> signals have no corresponding <em>Seq. Module Input</em> signal in the &ldquo;real&rdquo; world. Instead they are derived entirely from the other sequence signals. The <em>eDART</em> uses them to do internal computations (e.g. Average Value / Pack Speed) or for teaching people the stages of a process.</p><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong><em>Machine equence / Pack<br /><br />    </em></strong>Goes ON at the end of <em>Machine Sequence / Fill</em> and OFF at the end of <em>Seq. Module Input / 1<sup>st</sup> Stage</em>. If the <em>eDART</em> is doing V-&gt;P control then it will also go off at the V-&gt;P transfer point (when <em>Control Output / V-&gt;P Transfer</em> goes ON). </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong><em>Machine Sequence / Hold<br /><br />    </em></strong>Goes ON when <em>Machine Sequence / Pack</em> goes off. If there is no <em>Pack</em> (i.e. no V-&gt;P control or 1<sup>st</sup> stage) then <em>Machine Sequence / Hold</em> goes on when <em>Machine Sequence / Fill</em> goes off. The <em>eDART</em> assumes a 2-stage process in that case. <em>Hold</em> then goes off at the end of Injection Forward.<br /><br />    <br /><br />    If you provide the <em>eDART</em> with a <em>Seq. Module Input / Second Stage</em> then it the sequencer will make <em>Machine Sequence / Hold</em> match it. </li><br /></ul><br /><ul type="disc"><br />    <li><strong><em>Machine Sequence / Plastic Cooling<br /><br />    </em></strong>Goes ON when <em>Machine Sequence / Fill</em> goes off and OFF at the last point in the cycle when the part could be cooling. If you have <em>Mold Clamped</em>. then it uses the end of <em>Machine Sequence / Mold Clamped</em>. If not it will use the end of <em>Screw Run</em>. If you have a <em>Mold Open</em> signal then this will be the end of the cooing point. </li><br /></ul><br /></div></p></div>
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<div class=" bs-column col-sm-12   bs-column-36f30487f5bda5ec35c1fc7a3cfb047ab332daf1 bs-column---default     "><p><div><br /><p>In <a  href="https://rjginc.com/tips/36">Tip #36</a> you saw how the <em>eDART</em> uses a fixed fill volume number to mark the end of fill, as the machine says it.</p><br /><br /><p>Typically the user forgets to set the fill volume when he starts up a mold<sup>1</sup> (see footnote at end). The sequencer starts with a default fill volume of 10000 cu. in. – a number that volume never reaches. So it uses the next best thing to denote the end of fill: peak injection pressure.</p><br /><br /><p>You can notice immediately that it is using peak injection pressure because it can’t figure out where fill ends until the end of the cycle. So the <em>Machine Sequence / Fill</em> trace (orange below) goes up at the start of fill and then just “sticks” there, drawing no horizontal line.</p><br /><br /><p>  <img src="https://rjginc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/tip37-image1.jpg"/><br /><br /><img src="https://rjginc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/tip37-image2.jpg"/></p><br /><br /><div><br /><p>At the end of injection the sequencer looks back, finds the injection pressure peak and marks this as the end of fill. It draws the rest of fill and, if hold is shown, draws the start and end of <em>Machine Sequence / Hold</em> at that time as well. Also you can see that the sequencer has just two bars in the Fill tab’s “Off Quality” section (use the drop question mark for help there).</p><br /></div><br /><br /><p><strong>The Problem: What if Injection Pressure Peak is Not at End of Machine Fill Speed?</strong></p><br /><br /><p>Many times there can be a cold slug in the nozzle or in hot runner tips that the injection unit needs to push out to get injection start. So the peak pressure may not be that at the end of fill. This will create a false end of fill and so not compute good viscosities, speeds and times. Here is an example.</p><br /><br /><p><img src="https://rjginc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/tip37-image3.jpg"/></p><br /><br /><hr /><br /><p><strong>What if the Peak Alternates</strong></p><br /><br /><p>Sometimes the spike from the cold slug is very close to the actual peak when the machine slows down. In that case the end of fill may oscillate between the two times to peak as shown below. This causes the computations of viscosity and times to vary wildly and create useless data.</p><br /><br /><p><img src="https://rjginc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/tip37-image4.jpg"/></p><br /><br /><p> <strong> <sup>1</sup>The footnote at the end</strong></p><br /><br /><p>Since it has been a perennial problem that people forget to set the fill volume I have developed a tool that does it for you: “Auto-Set Fill Volume”.</p><br /><br /><p>This is a bit of an experimental tool. It watches the stroke / volume sensor and uses the first dramatic slow-down (change in slope) to decide where the machine fill ends. It waits for 10 stable cycles in which it gets the same end of fill volume. Then, if the sequencer does not have a fill volume set yet it puts in the average from those 10 stable cycles as the fill volume. If the sequencer already has a fill volume the Auto-Set Fill Volume function will not overwrite it.</p><br /><br /><p>This has worked when tested against most of the customer data we have collected here and is running at one customer. It has some limitations as follows.</p><br /><br /><ul type="disc"><br />	<li>If you never run stable shots very long it will never set volume (i.e. as our students often do in the lab).</li><br />	<li>If you intend to run rheology curves and your machine goes to a different end position as you change speeds then you will need to set the fill volume manually before running the rheology curve.</li><br />	<li>If there is noise on the stroke signal it would get the wrong fill volume.</li><br /></ul><br /></div></p></div>
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<div class="wp-block-post-date"><time datetime="2008-04-11T10:23:42-04:00">avril 11, 2008</time></div></div>



<div class=" bs-column col-sm-12   bs-column-36f30487f5bda5ec35c1fc7a3cfb047ab332daf1 bs-column---default     "><p><div><br /><p>As the previous tip discussed the best measurement of “filling” from the machine’s point of view is to have fill start after the suck-back is “used up” and then end fill at a fixed volume. This provides a stable signal for such summary values as <em>Effective Viscosity / Fill</em>, <em>Average Value / Fill Flow Rate</em> (and <em>Fill Speed</em>), <em>Process Time</em>(s) / <em>Cavity Fill</em> and <em>Fill and Pack</em> computations. In valve gate control the start of fill is volume = 0. This provides a stable reference point for opening and closing valves on volume.</p><br /><br /><p>In the graphic below fill begins when the screw moves forward past the point where it was when the screw motor stopped on the previous shot (volume = 0). The “Defined fill volume” of 1.025 cu. in. was set by the user. This is commonly done on the cycle graph with the cursor but can also be done by making a short shot and pressing the button on the “Sequence Settings” Fill tab.</p><br /><br /><p>If the user does NOT set the fill volume (after the process has stabilized) then the <em>eDART</em> will use peak injection pressure as the end of fill. More detail to follow.</p><br /><img src="https://rjginc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/tip36-image1.jpg"/><br /></div></p></div>
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